![]() ![]() ![]() Monks are not proficient with simple weapons.As such, unarmed attacks are simple weapons.Unarmed Attacks are listed under the header Simple Weapons.The only place simple weapons are listed is the Weapons Table.Or, if a rule states: "you can only attack with a light weapon" unarmed strikes would be an option.Īlso, why have the conditional property of "considered"? If it is a light weapon, why not just say so. Such as - XYZ feat applies to all light weapons - would include unarmed strikes as a viable target of said feat. That statement should only be reflected within those parameters. "Unarmed strike is always considered a light weapon" is stated within the section talking about properties of Light, One-handed and Two-handed weapons. the primary source) and also the exact same source as the -4 nonproficiency penalty. This is incidentally the Weapons chapter (i.e. My quote also came from text, not table - PHB 113. Therefore, you need to be proficient with it to avoid penalties, just like any other weapon. It doesn't say "considered a weapon for this or that purpose." It's just considered a weapon, full-stop. Also, if a creature is always considered armed when wielding their natural weapons, and unarmed strikes were natural weapons, then Improved Unarmed Strike wouldn't do anything, and would have no reason to exist.īeing considered a weapon is enough to need proficiency. Since, there seems to be a disagreement between the table and the text, I defer to the text.The distinction exists because unarmed strikes are noted as acting as either manufactured weapons or natural weapons depending on the effect thus, it must be noted for any effect affecting manufactured/natural weapons what effect it has on unarmed strikes. IIRC, the entirety of this argument stems from the position of Unarmed Attacks listed under Simple Weapons on the weapons chart. Conversely, Natural Weapons are weapons that are part of the creature. ![]() No, an unarmed strike is considered a light weapon - in is not an actual weapon (light or otherwise). Since, there seems to be a disagreement between the table and the text, I defer to the text. As I stated before, this is clearly defined in the players handbook as making an attack with no weapon in hand (Glossary ). If unarmed attacks were weapons, such distinction would not be necessary.įurthermore, you are making an unarmed attack. This is reiterated over and over as they clearly distinguish unarmed attacks as being viable targets to such spells as Magic Weapon (whereas natural weapons requires Magic Fang), feats such as Weapon Finesse and Weapon Focus, and effects which target weapons. Likewise, it threatens any space it can reach. A creature making a melee attack with a natural weapon is considered armed and does not provoke attacks of opportunity. Natural weapons are weapons that are physically a part of a creature. It's irrelevant though, in light of the fact that the vast majority of monks are not automatically proficient with their natural weapons. And unarmed strikes do, in fact, do so in several places. Specifically, this would require that the weapon calls itself a natural weapon. Therefore, Unarmed Strikes are not a natural weapon by RAW while they fit the general rule for natural weapons (a weapon that is part of your body), they do not follow any other rules of natural weapons in existing stat blocks and classes.Natural weapons are primary or secondary in their general state, but a natural weapon can exist that does not follow that rule. ![]() Furthermore, Unarmed Strike explicitly benefits from iterative attacks due to high BAB (otherwise monks couldn't flurry with it). Unarmed Strike is not designated as a primary or secondary natural weapon in either the weapon's description or in any humanoid stat block in the monster manual. Natural attacks are either primary (and use your full BAB) or secondary (and use your BAB-5), and they never benefit from iterative attacks you would gain from high BAB. ![]()
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